Too many machine gun owners are penny wise and pound foolish, spending tens of thousands of dollars on historical machine guns and then firing the cheapest ammo they can possibly find (ie, Turkish surplus 8×57). I am aware of at least half a dozen machine guns damaged or destroyed by it as well. I have one friend who is missing a couple fingers from an incident in which a round of Turk surplus he thought was a dud detonated while he was ramming it out with a cleaning rod – the rod took off his thumb and the bullet took two more fingers. I have no doubt that they are telling the truth – but the very next round could well change that streak for them. Now, I have encountered plenty of people who claim to have fired thousands and thousands of rounds of Turk surplus without any problems. I believe the powder granules have deteriorated and the surface area increased, leading to a much faster burn rate than when originally made, and thus excessive pressure. Why? Because it’s overpressure and has bad primers (lots of hangfires), thanks to poor storage over the decades. One would be better advised to buy it only for the projectiles (or really, just don’t buy it at all). It is safe enough in bolt actions, but that’s IT. Whenever I am asked, I always urge people to not use it in self-loading rifles. It’s usually the least expensive option for 8mm ammo, and it can be identified by its Turkish crescent in the headstamps, one-piece brass clips, and crude bandoliers (7 pockets with 2 clips in each). It used to be super cheap (under 5c/round), but in the last few years I have seen it selling for more like 30c/round. There is a lot of Turkish surplus 8mm Mauser ammunition on the market here in the US.
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